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		<title>Comment on Educating Tibetans in Tibetan? by Bruce Humes</title>
		<link>http://linguisticanthropology.org/blog/2011/12/23/educating-tibetans-in-tibetan/comment-page-1/#comment-4951</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Humes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 06:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an interesting article and I&#039;ve enjoyed reading it. The author has tried to maintain an objective stance and I appreciate it.

That said, as a Westerner living in China for almost 3 decades now, I can see that the author is also rather naive. I submit that the references in the Chinese constitution and to national language policy may be considered &quot;enlightened&quot; in the China context, but the gulf between policy statement and actual practice is so huge as to make the former meaningless. This would be clearer if the author had cited examples of actual non-Chinese language instruction; a fair amount of documentation is available on the Internet and it&#039;s a pity it wasn&#039;t cited. 

A few (necessarily brief!) examples. The Evenki in northern China, famous for their reindeer-herding. The 30,000 or so who live on the Russian side of the border have a written language developed back in the 1930s, and reportedly use texts in Evenki in early schooling. Those who live on the Chinese side do not use those texts, seem to be unaware of them, and therefore do not &quot;have&quot; a written language. If the authorities in China were serious about such matters, why haven&#039;t they adopted or adapted that language and used it for educational purposes?

Another example: education in Uighur and Mongolian. There are indeed elementary and middle schools offering education in these languages in parts of Xinjiang and Inner Mongolia. However, it is not possible to receive a university education in these languages, and in some cases, there are little or no opportunities to get local high school education in them. Furthermore, mainstream Han Chinese and even many speakers of them look down on these languages and thus -- predictably -- very few non-Han decide to send their children to such &quot;ethnic schools.&quot; So, overall education in both Mandarin and Uighur or Mongolian tends to be seen as taking a path with &quot;no future.&quot; For details on the situation in Inner Mongolia, see &quot;Mongolian Fluency Drops among Minority Students in Hulunbuir&quot; (http://www.bruce-humes.com/?p=5375)

Finally, one interesting factoid: In areas with high minority populations like Tibet, Inner Mongolia and Xinjiang, it is ONLY minority group members who study &quot;minority languages.&quot; Han Chinese are not -- to my knowledge -- required to do so, even when the local population may be 50% of more &quot;non-Han.&quot; This means that well educated Han Chinese can apply and get government jobs in areas where Chinese is not widely spoken, because they are not &quot;expected&quot; to master the relevant languages. But ethnic minorities will be penalized when applying unless they are fluent in Chinese -- another reason for them not to go to an &quot;ethnic&quot; school in the first place. As noted in the article I cite above, this leads to a popular concept among Mongolians: &quot;Mongolian-is-useless&quot; (蒙语无用论).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting article and I&#8217;ve enjoyed reading it. The author has tried to maintain an objective stance and I appreciate it.</p>
<p>That said, as a Westerner living in China for almost 3 decades now, I can see that the author is also rather naive. I submit that the references in the Chinese constitution and to national language policy may be considered &#8220;enlightened&#8221; in the China context, but the gulf between policy statement and actual practice is so huge as to make the former meaningless. This would be clearer if the author had cited examples of actual non-Chinese language instruction; a fair amount of documentation is available on the Internet and it&#8217;s a pity it wasn&#8217;t cited. </p>
<p>A few (necessarily brief!) examples. The Evenki in northern China, famous for their reindeer-herding. The 30,000 or so who live on the Russian side of the border have a written language developed back in the 1930s, and reportedly use texts in Evenki in early schooling. Those who live on the Chinese side do not use those texts, seem to be unaware of them, and therefore do not &#8220;have&#8221; a written language. If the authorities in China were serious about such matters, why haven&#8217;t they adopted or adapted that language and used it for educational purposes?</p>
<p>Another example: education in Uighur and Mongolian. There are indeed elementary and middle schools offering education in these languages in parts of Xinjiang and Inner Mongolia. However, it is not possible to receive a university education in these languages, and in some cases, there are little or no opportunities to get local high school education in them. Furthermore, mainstream Han Chinese and even many speakers of them look down on these languages and thus &#8212; predictably &#8212; very few non-Han decide to send their children to such &#8220;ethnic schools.&#8221; So, overall education in both Mandarin and Uighur or Mongolian tends to be seen as taking a path with &#8220;no future.&#8221; For details on the situation in Inner Mongolia, see &#8220;Mongolian Fluency Drops among Minority Students in Hulunbuir&#8221; (<a href="http://www.bruce-humes.com/?p=5375" rel="nofollow">http://www.bruce-humes.com/?p=5375</a>)</p>
<p>Finally, one interesting factoid: In areas with high minority populations like Tibet, Inner Mongolia and Xinjiang, it is ONLY minority group members who study &#8220;minority languages.&#8221; Han Chinese are not &#8212; to my knowledge &#8212; required to do so, even when the local population may be 50% of more &#8220;non-Han.&#8221; This means that well educated Han Chinese can apply and get government jobs in areas where Chinese is not widely spoken, because they are not &#8220;expected&#8221; to master the relevant languages. But ethnic minorities will be penalized when applying unless they are fluent in Chinese &#8212; another reason for them not to go to an &#8220;ethnic&#8221; school in the first place. As noted in the article I cite above, this leads to a popular concept among Mongolians: &#8220;Mongolian-is-useless&#8221; (蒙语无用论).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Research Works Act – H.R. 3699 by Economic Reason to Oppose the Research Works Act &#171; Apres Rain Arroyo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Economic Reason to Oppose the Research Works Act &#171; Apres Rain Arroyo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 17:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for Linguistic Anthropology: http://linguisticanthropology.org/blog/2012/01/13/research-works-act-h-r-3699/  Sign a Petition or Write [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Research Works Act – H.R. 3699 by Karl Reisman</title>
		<link>http://linguisticanthropology.org/blog/2012/01/13/research-works-act-h-r-3699/comment-page-1/#comment-4391</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl Reisman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2012 23:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At present most articles are on JStor. I as a poor retired private scholar am not given access to 
JStor. I regard this as an outrage practiced by the Universities. The fewer people read something
the harder it is to gain access.
  Universities seeking to make money on the ability to read journals, or to restrict these articles
to the ingroup of their active members are practicing a hypocrisy when they talk about open access.

  Yes this bill will only make it worse. But it is pretty bad already. I remember when reading books in the Widerner reading room was free to all citizens of Massachusetts. 

  Where is that spirit now.  From my view, things are so bad now that I want to give up
in disgust. I BELIEVE in the openness of knowledge. 

  You CAN NOT make Property of EVERYTHING. And certainly should not.

  The result of this bill will be the further corrupting and decay of the society.

  We will bookeep every aspect of our lives and die robots.

  Blessings on you all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At present most articles are on JStor. I as a poor retired private scholar am not given access to<br />
JStor. I regard this as an outrage practiced by the Universities. The fewer people read something<br />
the harder it is to gain access.<br />
  Universities seeking to make money on the ability to read journals, or to restrict these articles<br />
to the ingroup of their active members are practicing a hypocrisy when they talk about open access.</p>
<p>  Yes this bill will only make it worse. But it is pretty bad already. I remember when reading books in the Widerner reading room was free to all citizens of Massachusetts. </p>
<p>  Where is that spirit now.  From my view, things are so bad now that I want to give up<br />
in disgust. I BELIEVE in the openness of knowledge. </p>
<p>  You CAN NOT make Property of EVERYTHING. And certainly should not.</p>
<p>  The result of this bill will be the further corrupting and decay of the society.</p>
<p>  We will bookeep every aspect of our lives and die robots.</p>
<p>  Blessings on you all.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Research Works Act – H.R. 3699 by Anthropology &#38; Open Access - 13 January 2012 &#124; Anthropology Report</title>
		<link>http://linguisticanthropology.org/blog/2012/01/13/research-works-act-h-r-3699/comment-page-1/#comment-4386</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthropology &#38; Open Access - 13 January 2012 &#124; Anthropology Report</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2012 19:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Research Works Act – H.R. 3699, Chad Nilep A bill known as the “Research Works Act” H.R. 3699 was introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives in December 2011. The Association of American Publishers applauded the bill, but some scholarly publishers have expressed opposition. This post provides a brief summary of the bill and statements in support and opposition from publishers and others.  Society for Linguistic Anthropology Blog, 13 January 2012 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Research Works Act – H.R. 3699, Chad Nilep A bill known as the “Research Works Act” H.R. 3699 was introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives in December 2011. The Association of American Publishers applauded the bill, but some scholarly publishers have expressed opposition. This post provides a brief summary of the bill and statements in support and opposition from publishers and others.  Society for Linguistic Anthropology Blog, 13 January 2012 [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Year-end Roundup by Anthropology Reflections on 2011 &#124; Anthropology Report</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthropology Reflections on 2011 &#124; Anthropology Report</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 14:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Year-end Roundup, Chad Nilep A year-end roundup of linguistic anthropology related stories.  Society for Linguistic Anthropology, 28 December 2011 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Year-end Roundup, Chad Nilep A year-end roundup of linguistic anthropology related stories.  Society for Linguistic Anthropology, 28 December 2011 [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Submissions by SLA Web Guru</title>
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		<dc:creator>SLA Web Guru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 17:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our editor-in-chief confirmed that submissions are free. The only possible costs are if an author wants to publish
copyrighted material (such as a third-party photo), but that rarely happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our editor-in-chief confirmed that submissions are free. The only possible costs are if an author wants to publish<br />
copyrighted material (such as a third-party photo), but that rarely happens.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Educating Tibetans in Tibetan? by tioedong</title>
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		<dc:creator>tioedong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 23:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>China&#039;s expansion into minority areas such as that of the Miao has been going on for about 2000 years. 

Their expansion into Tibet is different because Tibet once ruled much of what is now China, and for centuries was an independent country.

So trying to incorporate the marginalized minorities might be similar to the American expansion into Native American lands, but the second more similar to China&#039;s colonization of Korea and Vietnam in the past. (Poland would be a closer example for those who don&#039;t know Chinese history.) When a people remember their past, and are willing to keep it alive, such imperialism will fail in the long run.

You also ignore that there is no language as &quot;Chinese&quot;. Mandarin, the main language of China, is only spoken by half of it&#039;s population as a first language. Many in SE China, including much of the Chinese diaspora, speak the Cantonese dialect, which is actually a different language. And I am amazed a linguest believes their claims that only 10 percent are &quot;literate or semi illiterate&quot;... since half of any population has an IQ under 100, one wonders how they can claim 90 percent can remember the thousands of complicated symbols needed to read Chinese.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>China&#8217;s expansion into minority areas such as that of the Miao has been going on for about 2000 years. </p>
<p>Their expansion into Tibet is different because Tibet once ruled much of what is now China, and for centuries was an independent country.</p>
<p>So trying to incorporate the marginalized minorities might be similar to the American expansion into Native American lands, but the second more similar to China&#8217;s colonization of Korea and Vietnam in the past. (Poland would be a closer example for those who don&#8217;t know Chinese history.) When a people remember their past, and are willing to keep it alive, such imperialism will fail in the long run.</p>
<p>You also ignore that there is no language as &#8220;Chinese&#8221;. Mandarin, the main language of China, is only spoken by half of it&#8217;s population as a first language. Many in SE China, including much of the Chinese diaspora, speak the Cantonese dialect, which is actually a different language. And I am amazed a linguest believes their claims that only 10 percent are &#8220;literate or semi illiterate&#8221;&#8230; since half of any population has an IQ under 100, one wonders how they can claim 90 percent can remember the thousands of complicated symbols needed to read Chinese.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Educating Tibetans in Tibetan? by Lobsang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lobsang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2011 12:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is great article with a great suggestions. I hope some people will consider make changes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is great article with a great suggestions. I hope some people will consider make changes.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Submissions by resmi prakash</title>
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		<dc:creator>resmi prakash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2011 07:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Sir,
I would like to know if there are any charges for publication applicable?!
Thank You!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Sir,<br />
I would like to know if there are any charges for publication applicable?!<br />
Thank You!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Occupying Language by Jason Antrosio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Antrosio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 01:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not related to current post, but wanted to let you know Linguistic Anthropology Blog is included in an attempt at comprehensive anthropology blog list and through 31 December, can vote for &lt;a href=&quot;http://anthropologyreport.com/survey-10-best-anthropology-blogs/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;10 best anthropology blogs&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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